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Author Topic: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!  (Read 2366 times)

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Hey, most of you won't know me so I'll give a brief introduction.

I'm a very rare case in this community, I'm one of the only people here to have grown up with Generation 4. I have memories of seeing YouTube videos when I was 9 or 10 of people catching Shaymin and Darkrai with glitches. At the time I didn't even bother trying, I didn't understand how they were doing anything so I moved on. Until 6 months ago I wasn't involved in this community at all actually, but in such little time I'm able to present to you something I wouldn't imagine to be possible 6 months ago. Well, that's enough about me, on to what you've all been waiting for.





Prerequisites:

A Pokémon with Fly or Teleport
The Explorer Kit (Use it before you enter the void, you will crash otherwise)
The Bicycle
The Berry Map (Obtainable in the Route 208 house, the other map on the Poketch works fine too)
Poké Balls (Obviously)

Optional:

The Counter Poketch app (This can be used as a substitute for the step counter to help prevent you messing up the steps by accident, as you won't be able to use the step counter after you save and reset in Battle Tower)

If you choose to use the Counter Poketch app and you haven't visited Veilstone City yet, here's a short and easy way to get it using the void:
https://pastebin.com/gXvMfUkF

From the Poketch Co. Void:

1 S

17 W

14 N

638 W

SR

211 W

1489 S

96 E

448 S

96 E

576 S

211 E

47 S

SR

IMPORTANT SIDENOTE: Your step counter DOES NOT work in the Battle Tower Void, you will have to count some steps yourself

East until you hit an invisible wall

North until you hit an invisible wall

9 S

Change your Poketch app to the Berry Map/Tracker


Darkrai:

East until you’re underneath Newmoon Island

1W repeatedly until you’re above Iron Island

If you're using the Counter Poketch app switch to it now and tap it every time you take a step, if you need to reset it switch to another app then switch back (the Counter is app 11)

42 N or 21 N twice

1 E (If you hit an invisible wall, go 1 N  1 E)

North until you hit an invisible wall

If you're using the Counter Poketch app make sure to reset it here

8 S

If you're using the Counter Poketch app make sure to reset it here

12 E

SR

Darkrai!


Shaymin:

East until you’re above the top part of Route 224 (Where the white rock is located)

1 W until you’re above the lower part of Route 224

1 E

North until you hit an invisible wall

If you're using the Counter Poketch app switch to it now and tap it every time you take a step, if you need to reset it switch to another app then switch back (the Counter is app 11)

15 E

SR

Shaymin!




Videos: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XzGdCYuJ00&t=1s (Darkrai)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0x10XJWRhyI (Crystalmourne's video on Shaymin)

(If people want me to record the Shaymin route I will do that eventually)



Explanation:
From the very beginning of this route there are a few things going on which you probably won't notice while playing. First of all, the 211 West is technically not necessary, it actually lines us up with a Newmoon Island which helps with positioning later on, from here the smaller changes in direction are to avoid a minefield of Pokémon Leagues that cause a BSOD when saving and resetting in the Battle Tower. After the reset we take advantage of invisible walls to travel back to where Sinnoh is, using the Berry Map to determine our location. That's pretty much it for both legendaries.

More on the Battle Tower Void:
The Battle Tower Void is an anomaly to say the least. Upon entering it even through normal circumstances there are some serious changes to the RAM which has an effect on the void. It's the only void in the entire game that allows you to open the menu in a Mystery Zone which opens up the ability to access anywhere you want in exterior Sinnoh by saving where that location would be and appearing there upon reset, in fact this is exactly how the Japanese method of capturing Darkrai and Shaymin works, the main difference being their ability to use the step counter. Other oddities include an abundance of miscellaneous tiles in the void, a lot of repetitive invisible walls and no changes in the X and Y coordinates at all (This is why the step counter doesn't work).

Pokémon Bank:
Here's something you didn't expect to see here. It's been common knowledge for a while that Shaymin and Darkrai cannot be sent to Generation 7 without the use of external devices, however that is only partially true. Darkrai and Arceus can be transfered if they meet specific conditions, Shaymin unfortunately cannot be transfered at all as of now.

Requirements for Darkrai:
Leveled up to 50 in D/P
Doesn't know Pursuit

Requirements for Arceus:
Levelled up to 100 in D/P

Other info:
This hasn't been tested on all versions of the game but definitely works on EU and US copies, it should work perfectly fine on the rest.

Messing up the steps before the SR which puts you in Newmoon or Seabreak can possibly brick your save file, if you follow the steps carefully you should never experience this problem. If you do, Walk Through Walls, Pokesav, PKHeX etc can be used to escape. You can also surf on the water in Seabreak Path if you have a surf pokemon and are going for Shaymin, this may also be true for the water in Newmoon Island but it's currently untested.



Credits:
Everyone at the Hall of Origin Discord server
MKDasher for finalising most of this route
SatoMew for their video on this void
Cryo for unintentionally going through a Battle Tower with his Arceus steps

Update list:
Added a section about the optional usage of the Counter app and changed both routes to have info about how and when to use it. (April 3rd)




That's all, if any updates to this post are necessary I'll update it ASAP. Until next time void explorers, enjoy your Shaymins and Darkrais.

Aera~
« Last Edit: April 03, 2017, 07:51:35 am by Aera »
Welcome to the Battle Tower! I am your guide to the Single and Double Battle Rooms. Would you like to take the Battle Room challenge?

>CHALLENGE
>INFO
>DARKRAI
>SHAYMIN
>EXIT

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 07:16:24 am »
Holy sh-

I'm testing this asap and tell you more. Congratz! That's a game-killer move :)

EDIT: It works for Darkrai. That's truely amazing, thanks!
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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2017, 08:58:06 am »
Just for the record on how to use this trick to Cresselia.

East until you’re underneath Fullmoon Island

1W repeatedly until you’re not underneath Fullmoon Island anymore.

42 N

1 E (If you hit an invisible wall, go 1 N  1 E)

North until you hit an invisible wall

5 S

12 E

SR

Cresselia!

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2017, 01:49:17 pm »
Didn't even consider Cresselia, good job on finding that
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>DARKRAI
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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2017, 06:35:29 pm »
Wait, saving in the Mystery Zone was what made this whole thing possible? I know in international D/P releases you can't open the menu in the (non-Battle Tower) Mystery Zone, but couldn't you still save with a registered Explorer Kit in any Mystery Zone?

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2017, 12:13:30 pm »
Saving in a Mystery Zone did make this whole thing possible, I actually was curious about the explorer kit too, turns out it just gives you the same message as if you were trying to use it indoors.
Welcome to the Battle Tower! I am your guide to the Single and Double Battle Rooms. Would you like to take the Battle Room challenge?

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>INFO
>DARKRAI
>SHAYMIN
>EXIT

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2017, 09:36:06 pm »
They said it would be impossible to obtain Arceus. They said it would be impossible to quickly get Shaymin and Darkrai.
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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2017, 05:29:37 am »
Now I say it's impossible to get Heatran to appear before having the National Dex.

PROVE ME WRONG FOLKS  :D

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2017, 06:12:55 am »
Now I say it's impossible to get Heatran to appear before having the National Dex.

PROVE ME WRONG FOLKS  :D

Would RETIRE trick work?
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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2017, 07:26:34 am »
Believe it or not, MKDasher is finding a way IIRC, and Aera and them are looking for a "speedrun" way of doing so :)
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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2017, 08:45:29 am »
I'M SO PROUD BEING WRONG  ;D

Now I say it's impossible to get Heatran to appear before having the National Dex.

PROVE ME WRONG FOLKS  :D

Would RETIRE trick work?

I guess there's a chance indeed that the retire trick allows the National Dex to be obtained. Then we would just have to go to Stark Mountain.

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2017, 09:18:59 am »
Nice find, Aera!  :)

Wait, saving in the Mystery Zone was what made this whole thing possible? I know in international D/P releases you can't open the menu in the (non-Battle Tower) Mystery Zone, but couldn't you still save with a registered Explorer Kit in any Mystery Zone?

You can only use the Explorer Kit on most Mystery Zones in the early Japanese copies, except in the Mystery Zone that is actually the Underground (or random Mystery Zones with the properties of the Underground like the one found at 237N/238N from Pokétch Co.).
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2017, 04:56:06 am »
Believe it or not, MKDasher is finding a way IIRC, and Aera and them are looking for a "speedrun" way of doing so :)
YOU'RE WRONG KRYS

We *were* doing that, turns out the flags seem to be very delicate so no progress has been made past a route to Stark Mountain and the Survival Area. I'll probably revisit Tran when everything else has been done.
Welcome to the Battle Tower! I am your guide to the Single and Double Battle Rooms. Would you like to take the Battle Room challenge?

>CHALLENGE
>INFO
>DARKRAI
>SHAYMIN
>EXIT

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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2017, 04:58:41 am »
Would RETIRE trick work?
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Every legendary using the RETIRE trick has been checked, Arceus is the only one that works unfortunately.
Welcome to the Battle Tower! I am your guide to the Single and Double Battle Rooms. Would you like to take the Battle Room challenge?

>CHALLENGE
>INFO
>DARKRAI
>SHAYMIN
>EXIT

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2017, 08:36:55 am »
Question, how does leveling up Arceus to 100 make it transferable? Unless I'm not in the loop, current methods cause Arceus to be shown as caught in the Mystery Zone and not the Hall of Origin. Wouldn't that discrepancy make it impossible to transfer at all?
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