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Author Topic: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!  (Read 5807 times)

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Hey, most of you won't know me so I'll give a brief introduction.

I'm a very rare case in this community, I'm one of the only people here to have grown up with Generation 4. I have memories of seeing YouTube videos when I was 9 or 10 of people catching Shaymin and Darkrai with glitches. At the time I didn't even bother trying, I didn't understand how they were doing anything so I moved on. Until 6 months ago I wasn't involved in this community at all actually, but in such little time I'm able to present to you something I wouldn't imagine to be possible 6 months ago. Well, that's enough about me, on to what you've all been waiting for.





Prerequisites:

A Pokémon with Fly or Teleport
The Explorer Kit (Use it before you enter the void, you will crash otherwise)
The Bicycle
The Berry Map (Obtainable in the Route 208 house, the other map on the Poketch works fine too)
Poké Balls (Obviously)


From the Poketch Co. Void:

1 S

17 W

14 N

638 W

Save and Reset

211 W

1489 S

96 E

448 S

96 E

576 S

211 E

47 S

Open and close your bag, if the screen turns black and you freeze, reset.

Save and Reset

IMPORTANT SIDENOTE: Your step counter DOES NOT work in the Battle Tower Void, you will have to count some steps yourself

East until you hit an invisible wall

North until you hit an invisible wall

9 S

23 E

North until you hit an invisible wall

2 S

Change your Poketch app to the Berry Map/Tracker


Darkrai:

East until your map shows you on Newmoon Island

1 W repeatedly until you're above Iron Island on your map

14 E

Save and Reset

Darkrai!



Shaymin:

East until you're above the highest part of Route 224 (Where the white rock is located) on your map

1 W repeatedly until you’re above the lower part of Route 224 on your map

16 E

Save and Reset

Shaymin!




Video: https://youtu.be/aJMeRwJsqmc


Explanation:
From the very beginning of this route there are a few things going on which you probably won't notice while playing. First of all, the 211 West is technically not necessary, it actually lines us up with a Newmoon Island which helps with positioning later on, from here the smaller changes in direction are to avoid a minefield of Pokémon Leagues that cause a BSOD when saving and resetting in the Battle Tower. After the reset we take advantage of invisible walls to travel back to where Sinnoh is, using the Berry Map to determine our location. That's pretty much it for both legendaries.

More on the Battle Tower Void:
The Battle Tower Void is an anomaly to say the least. Upon entering it even through normal circumstances there are some serious changes to the RAM which has an effect on the void. It's the only void in the entire game that allows you to open the menu in a Mystery Zone which opens up the ability to access anywhere you want in exterior Sinnoh by saving where that location would be and appearing there upon reset, in fact this is exactly how the Japanese method of capturing Darkrai and Shaymin works, the main difference being their ability to use the step counter. Other oddities include an abundance of miscellaneous tiles in the void, a lot of repetitive invisible walls and no changes in the X and Y coordinates at all (This is why the step counter doesn't work).

Pokémon Bank:
Here's something you didn't expect to see here. It's been common knowledge for a while that Shaymin and Darkrai cannot be sent to Generation 7 without the use of external devices, however that is only partially true. Darkrai and Arceus can be transfered if they meet specific conditions, Shaymin unfortunately cannot be transfered at all as of now.

Requirements for Darkrai:
Caught in Diamond (Pearl Darkrais confirmed to not transfer for some reason)
Leveled up to 50 in the game it was caught in
Doesn't know Pursuit

Requirements for Arceus:
Caught in Diamond (Pearl Arceus confirmed to not transfer for some reason)
Levelled up to 100 in Diamond

Other info:
This hasn't been tested on all versions of the game but definitely works on EU and US copies, it should work perfectly fine on the rest.

Messing up the steps before the SR which puts you in Newmoon or Seabreak can possibly brick your save file, if you follow the steps carefully you should never experience this problem. If you do, Walk Through Walls, Pokesav, PKHeX etc can be used to escape. You can also surf on the water in Seabreak Path if you have a surf pokemon and are going for Shaymin, this may also be true for the water in Newmoon Island but it's currently untested.



Credits:
Everyone at the Hall of Origin Discord server
MKDasher for finalising most of this route
SatoMew for their video on this void
Cryo for unintentionally going through a Battle Tower with his Arceus steps

Update list:
Added a section about the optional usage of the Counter app and changed both routes to have info about how and when to use it. (April 3rd)

Optimised both routes to help prevent save data loss and removed the sections about using the Counter app as it's not necessary anymore. (August 25th)

Removed a previous edit about Darkrai not transferring, as it has been confirmed only Darkrais caught in Diamond can be transferred. (October 20th)

Added that only Arceus caught in Diamond can be transferred. (October 20th)

Replaced the original video with an up to date one (November 4th)

That's all, if any updates to this post are necessary I'll update it ASAP. Until next time void explorers, enjoy your Shaymins and Darkrais.

Aera~
« Last Edit: November 11, 2017, 08:47:43 am by Aera »

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 07:16:24 am »
Holy sh-

I'm testing this asap and tell you more. Congratz! That's a game-killer move :)

EDIT: It works for Darkrai. That's truely amazing, thanks!
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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2017, 08:58:06 am »
Just for the record on how to use this trick to Cresselia.

East until you’re underneath Fullmoon Island

1W repeatedly until you’re not underneath Fullmoon Island anymore.

42 N

1 E (If you hit an invisible wall, go 1 N  1 E)

North until you hit an invisible wall

5 S

12 E

SR

Cresselia!

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2017, 01:49:17 pm »
Didn't even consider Cresselia, good job on finding that

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2017, 06:35:29 pm »
Wait, saving in the Mystery Zone was what made this whole thing possible? I know in international D/P releases you can't open the menu in the (non-Battle Tower) Mystery Zone, but couldn't you still save with a registered Explorer Kit in any Mystery Zone?

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2017, 12:13:30 pm »
Saving in a Mystery Zone did make this whole thing possible, I actually was curious about the explorer kit too, turns out it just gives you the same message as if you were trying to use it indoors.

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2017, 09:36:06 pm »
They said it would be impossible to obtain Arceus. They said it would be impossible to quickly get Shaymin and Darkrai.
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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2017, 05:29:37 am »
Now I say it's impossible to get Heatran to appear before having the National Dex.

PROVE ME WRONG FOLKS  :D

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« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2017, 06:12:55 am »
Now I say it's impossible to get Heatran to appear before having the National Dex.

PROVE ME WRONG FOLKS  :D

Would RETIRE trick work?
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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2017, 07:26:34 am »
Believe it or not, MKDasher is finding a way IIRC, and Aera and them are looking for a "speedrun" way of doing so :)
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« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2017, 08:45:29 am »
I'M SO PROUD BEING WRONG  ;D

Now I say it's impossible to get Heatran to appear before having the National Dex.

PROVE ME WRONG FOLKS  :D

Would RETIRE trick work?

I guess there's a chance indeed that the retire trick allows the National Dex to be obtained. Then we would just have to go to Stark Mountain.

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« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2017, 09:18:59 am »
Nice find, Aera!  :)

Wait, saving in the Mystery Zone was what made this whole thing possible? I know in international D/P releases you can't open the menu in the (non-Battle Tower) Mystery Zone, but couldn't you still save with a registered Explorer Kit in any Mystery Zone?

You can only use the Explorer Kit on most Mystery Zones in the early Japanese copies, except in the Mystery Zone that is actually the Underground (or random Mystery Zones with the properties of the Underground like the one found at 237N/238N from Pokétch Co.).
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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2017, 04:56:06 am »
Believe it or not, MKDasher is finding a way IIRC, and Aera and them are looking for a "speedrun" way of doing so :)
YOU'RE WRONG KRYS

We *were* doing that, turns out the flags seem to be very delicate so no progress has been made past a route to Stark Mountain and the Survival Area. I'll probably revisit Tran when everything else has been done.

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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2017, 04:58:41 am »
Would RETIRE trick work?
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Every legendary using the RETIRE trick has been checked, Arceus is the only one that works unfortunately.

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Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2017, 08:36:55 am »
Question, how does leveling up Arceus to 100 make it transferable? Unless I'm not in the loop, current methods cause Arceus to be shown as caught in the Mystery Zone and not the Hall of Origin. Wouldn't that discrepancy make it impossible to transfer at all?
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