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The Official ACE Guide - READ THIS IF YOU ARE NEW TO ACE
« on: June 26, 2017, 08:03:09 am »
Welcome to the ACE Guide !

ACE is the most powerful and dangerous glitch of them all, and some questions come up often.
If you want to ask a question, please read this thread, if the answer is there please don't post about it.


NOTE : This guide is a WIP, I'm going to add new questions as they come up. Please don't post unless it's for this purpose :)
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Re: The Official ACE Guide - READ THIS IF YOU ARE NEW TO ACE
« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2017, 08:08:26 am »
Question : I tried using this setup and it doesn't work !

Answer : This is quite specific, depending on the setup. Check out the wiki page for a fix, and if it doesn't work, ask us !
If you ask us, please tell us :
- Which version of the game you're playing (Red/Blue or Yellow)
- Which language you're using (note : for ACE's purposes, all that counts is Japanese, English or "other". "Other" all have more or less the same properties.)
- Which party / box Pokémon setup you're using
- Which item setup you're using, if possible link us to the source instead of copy-pasting the setup. This sometimes gives extra info you didn't know was important.

Also, but that's a general rule, be polite, use a correct English, and don't stalk us. ACE is complex, don't expect us to give away solutions by snapping two fingers. Thank you for asking in the first place, though :P


Details :

First off, most ACE setups are region-specific. There are three groups :
- Japanese
- English
- Other ("European")
Most setups aren't cross-region.

Also, most setups for R/B don't work in Yellow, and vice-versa.

Basically, ACE allows mostly to edit the game's memory to, uh, make it do backflips ? Or whatever else.
Due to technical reasons, depending on your group (see above) some parts of memory are laid out differently. Thus, codes have to be modified to account for these changes.

Likewise, there are huge differences between Red/Blue (which are basically the same thing with different encounter tables xD) and Yellow. So same things apply.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2017, 07:09:33 am by ISSOtm »
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Re: The Official ACE Guide - READ THIS IF YOU ARE NEW TO ACE
« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2017, 03:52:32 am »
Very good idea ISSOtm, it was about time a clear guide was started, because we usually see always the same questions here  :P

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Re: The Official ACE Guide - READ THIS IF YOU ARE NEW TO ACE
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2017, 07:05:50 am »
Question : I tried using 8F / ws m, but it corrupted my save. Is there a way to recover it ?

Answer : Oh heeeeell yeah. It's just... Try doing this without ever saving. And I mean, if you save then it's game over. You can't switch boxes either. lol

I might have better for you : here are instructions to reduce the risk of nuking your save file !

1. Save (not necessary but heh)
2. View a Pokémon's summary (as innocuous as it might seems xD)
3. DON'T SAVE, SWITCH BOXES, OR ANYTHING.
4. Use 8F / ws m. Crashes are less lethal to your save data, promise.

I didn't say this was the perfect solution in any way, though. Best practice really is to check, double-check and triple-check you did everything alright, then do what's above, then use. If you're on an emulator, a savestate is a must.
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Re: The Official ACE Guide - READ THIS IF YOU ARE NEW TO ACE
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2017, 07:14:04 am »
Question : How do I write my own setup ?

Answer : You need to know the GB's ASM. Try learning z80 ASM, it's mostly the same (and for good reasons :P). Then learn some of Gen I's inner workings, and write your setup.
Still, the best way is to become part of the community and worm your way into doing what you're aiming to. Some did just tha, and are having a great time here ^^

If you'd like to commission someone here, we need to know the target version and language, as well as precisely knowing what you want. That said, we're open for commissionning, and it's free !

Note to those only knowing C and hoping it's enough : oooohhhh boyyyy it's NOT. Believe me. Even for experienced ASM programmers, it's a pain.
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Re: The Official ACE Guide - READ THIS IF YOU ARE NEW TO ACE
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2017, 07:21:15 am »
Question : Is it possible to permanently do blah blah blah wit ACE ?

Answer : Whoa there boy, cool your jets. Doing that is probably possible, but the biggest problem with ACE is that it usually doesn't persist when shutting the console down.
But you might have heard about MrCheeze's virus, which bypasses this restriction by manipulating the save file. The biggest problem is that it's a very heavy modification of the save file, and... I don't think anybody here will want to modify everything required for it to work. Sorry, boy.
But on the flip side : yes. It's entirely possible.
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