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Lab γ: Video Games and Glitches Discussion => Pokémon Glitch Discussion => Topic started by: Unused Trainer on January 13, 2017, 06:08:19 am

Title: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: Unused Trainer on January 13, 2017, 06:08:19 am
https://youtu.be/bc_Jovck1so

About this video, i have putted an important question in the comment from the video:

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The question are now: what is happening on gen 3 and above, if me is transfer a MissingNo or and other glitch-pokemon from gen 1/2? Can someone test "this Pokemon scientific expirement"? Maybe contact some youtubers like ChickasaurGL or Crystal_ for test this expirement? And if me is playing to gen 1/2 from a smartphone Android device can still transfer a Pokemom in gen 3 and above? The other question is this method applicable to famous hack rom? For example transfer Pokemon from Pokemon Prism (a GBC hack rom) to Pokemon Ruby and Shappire and above.

Can someone test this trhee expirement please? And maybe create 3 Youtube videos for tutorial.

 Is my dream transfer my Pokemon Prism team to Gen 5 and above, and i want to realize this dream!
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: Unused Trainer on January 14, 2017, 04:42:31 pm
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Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: ISSOtm on January 15, 2017, 09:19:29 am
Transferring any Pokémon from Gen I / II to III or later is impossible. And the Poké Bank hasn't got the "Gen I to VII" feature yet.
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: Missing? NO! on January 15, 2017, 02:25:54 pm
Since the hardware is incompatible with each other I think it's impossible. You might be able to accomplish something like it over an emulator but you'd probably have to use 3rd party tools, at which point it's not a real glitch.
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: Unused Trainer on January 15, 2017, 03:41:03 pm
Since the hardware is incompatible with each other I think it's impossible. You might be able to accomplish something like it over an emulator but you'd probably have to use 3rd party tools, at which point it's not a real glitch.
But hacking a game is a method to discover new glitch.
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: ISSOtm on January 15, 2017, 04:34:15 pm
The problem is, every Pokémon is, in the core, a number. For example, in Gen I, Rhydon is 1, and 1 is Rhydon.
Now, in Gen II, Rhydon is 112. That means that when you trade between gens, Gen II uses a table to do the conversion.

But there aren't any entries for glitch Pokémon ! And that's why trading glitch Pokémon is kind of a hiatus. You can do it if you manage to get past all the error traps, but what you get on the other side makes not much sense.

Also, you might say "Who cares, let's extrapolate data from a table and do as if it was possible !" But that won't work : since there isn't any conversion table anywhere between Gen II and any newer gen... there's no data to be extrapolated. However, when Poké Bank gets the Gen I to VII feature, things might change. And I do say might.
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: Unused Trainer on January 16, 2017, 04:30:47 am
One Youtuber has risolved the firts my question:

https://youtu.be/ltYR6HcL9Vs

Still remain two question to resolve  8)
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: ISSOtm on January 16, 2017, 05:42:46 am
This is irrelevant, since the Pokémon that Missingno will be turned into depends on the tool you are using and its version.
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: Charmy on January 16, 2017, 06:54:27 am
Also, your Prism team will stay in Prism, as not just the games aren't compatible with each other, but also Prism modifies Pokémon data, so your Loppuny wouldn't be a Loppuny anymore.
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: Unused Trainer on January 17, 2017, 03:07:02 am
Also, your Prism team will stay in Prism, as not just the games aren't compatible with each other, but also Prism modifies Pokémon data, so your Loppuny wouldn't be a Loppuny anymore.

Yes i know this,  but Pokemon Naturia for example is still a Pokemon Gold with similar grapich, maybe the cross-gen transfer hack can be applicated a this hack rom.
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: Raven Freak on January 17, 2017, 05:05:50 pm
Nintendo is fully aware that Missingno. exists in the game. Glitched Pokemon will most likely be blocked and marked as abnormal like they are in Gen 2. If that's not the case, they'll just appear to be whatever Pokemon that shares a ID with whatever glitch you try to transfer over, and again will likely be banned from being transferred over. I can't wait for Pokemon Bank to return though regardless. :P However I understand why it's taking time. Since so much has changed since Gen 1, they have to convert Gen 1 Pokemon EV and IV values to that of Gen 7's, there are moves that certain species can't learn now that they could back in the day, etc. Sure the video in your op states that it is indeed possible to do so, in the long run they're still not your "original" Pokemon as they had to be altered to be able to be transferred into the new games and unless you have the money to do so, would be way too expensive to even bother with IMO.
Title: Re: Some experiment should be test with: transfer Pokemon to Gen 1/2 to 3 and above
Post by: Unused Trainer on January 18, 2017, 06:39:36 am
Ok, i understand.