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Title: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 27, 2009, 06:05:04 pm
I've decided to re-enable the glitch power system due to boredom.  Glitch Power is a system we used to have back in the early days of this forum.  The numbers mean absolutly nothing but that's besides the point.

Hit power or drain on someone to up or lower their glitch power.

If any drama should be caused by this (again), it will be gone permanetly (or until I feel like doing it again which will be probably about 5 years after) so please think twice before complaining about how your glitch power is in the area you don't want it to be at and then get pissy about it, etc.

Thank you.

Edit: Everyone's Glitch Power is back at where it was BEFORE it was removed in the first place.  Do not +1 Newo's, instead -1 it.  He likes having it as low as it can go.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Missing? NO! on April 27, 2009, 07:57:55 pm
This makes me feel old, I was here when it was deleted.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: ∀xaj on April 27, 2009, 08:15:22 pm
Why is mine -99?
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 27, 2009, 08:17:41 pm
Because your's WAS -100 when it was disabled.  Someone boosted you.  I can make it have glitch power of 1 if you'd like.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: ∀xaj on April 27, 2009, 08:19:46 pm
That would be nice.  But why was it -100?
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 27, 2009, 08:20:37 pm
Because it was ok?  *resets to 1*
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: ∀xaj on April 27, 2009, 08:21:28 pm
It does not appear to be reset.

EDIT: Never mind, just changed as I posted.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Bluelatios on April 27, 2009, 08:46:49 pm
Glitch power huh? I guess that's sort of interesting. But it seems pointless to have really, so why did we invent it?
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Abwayax on April 27, 2009, 10:09:43 pm
Now it's not
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 28, 2009, 01:17:13 pm
Did you remove it because it was causing the blank page errors? If so, I tried removed it before, but the errors were still there. :\
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Abwayax on April 28, 2009, 01:53:36 pm
Did you remove it was causing the blank page errors? If so, I tried removed it before, but the errors were still there. :\
I fixed all the goddamn errors. I'm considering giving you lot access to phpmyadmin just so you all would stop bitching to me about errors and try fixing them yourself
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Jolteon on April 28, 2009, 03:08:37 pm
Glitch Power? Was this around before I joined or something?
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Missing? NO! on April 28, 2009, 04:15:19 pm
Glitch Power? Was this around before I joined or something?
Member #570, yes.
It was deleted at around Member #350 something.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Fivex on April 28, 2009, 04:39:17 pm
Hmm, is it still gone?
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: extreme forkton supreme on April 28, 2009, 04:39:37 pm
Wow. GARY re-enables a feature of the site that I've always enjoyed and Abwayax shuts it back down on the same day.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Fivex on April 28, 2009, 04:40:52 pm
And, just enablekarma and rename it. That shouldn't cause problems.
Unless glitch power WAS originally karma.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Abwayax on April 28, 2009, 04:45:07 pm
Wow. GARY re-enables a feature of the site that I've always enjoyed and Abwayax shuts it back down on the same day.
Yeah, I'm a total prick, aren't I?
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 28, 2009, 04:48:44 pm
Quote
<@Zander_Saffron> Oh and I had karma disabled for a reason

That reason being...? (Just wondering.)
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Glisp on April 28, 2009, 05:20:49 pm
Maybe the reason why is greed. We can't have people bitching anymore in the Forums. Since this has failed before there wouldn't be anything stopping it from failing again. It was the same case with the Site comments. (Which is actually pretty funny how I know that since I joined after Comments were disabled. I hung out in the comments section a lot close to the end of its run. I mostly contributed helpful information to the Glitch articles. Although I did have a few occasions where I said or did the wrong thing.)

right here is a prime example of what I mean. Already things are making people's blood boil. (well only two people but still.) I just hope it doesn't result in another admin leaving for good. I know if I ever become admin, I'm never leaving even if I have a big disagreement with someone.

Sorry I'm derailing the topic but I think it would be best to go with Abwayax's idea on this, just because of predictability issues. (not because I'm trying to be a kiss ass. I swear!)
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 28, 2009, 05:25:43 pm
Didn't everyone spam the comments? And I mean EVERYONE.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Glisp on April 28, 2009, 05:29:48 pm
Still, I think you fail to see the point. Refer to the Chaos Theory and you will see a pattern here. Its funny I mention that since I barely understand the Chaos Theory but understand it well enough to know that your plan will have some bad consequences.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Phrawger on April 28, 2009, 05:30:56 pm
Didn't everyone spam the comments? And I mean EVERYONE.
...yeah, and it was removed. And people got riled up about glitch power sometime in the past.

Which is why it was removed.

I don't see where you're going with this.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Glisp on April 28, 2009, 05:32:56 pm
Hey maybe this topic should be moved to debate wars because its beginning to sound like one.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 28, 2009, 05:38:33 pm
Isn't that the exact reason why I posted this:

If any drama should be caused by this (again), it will be gone permanetly (or until I feel like doing it again which will be probably about 5 years after) so please think twice before complaining about how your glitch power is in the area you don't want it to be at and then get pissy about it, etc.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: extreme forkton supreme on April 28, 2009, 05:38:51 pm
Wow. GARY re-enables a feature of the site that I've always enjoyed and Abwayax shuts it back down on the same day.
Yeah, I'm a total prick, aren't I?
No, but what's the reason? The fact that it caused some kind of epic drama sometime back when it was available? Or is there an underlying cause?
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Glisp on April 28, 2009, 05:46:35 pm
I say it has everything to do with both things you just said Flashy. The fact is if drama over this feature happened once then its going to happen again. We have too many immature members who are going to fool around with it a lot (i.e. me) They won't be able to control themselves and things will get out of hand. I think it is a very wise decision to keep the feature disabled.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 28, 2009, 05:47:10 pm
Didn't everyone spam the comments? And I mean EVERYONE.
...yeah, and it was removed. And people got riled up about glitch power sometime in the past.

Which is why it was removed.

I don't see where you're going with this.

I was refering to when Glisp said he did some things that he wasn't supposed to in the comments, not the matter of Glitch Power itself.

I say it has everything to do with both things you just said Flashy. The fact is if drama over this feature happened once then its going to happen again. We have too many immature members who are going to fool around with it a lot (i.e. me) They won't be able to control themselves and things will get out of hand. I think it is a very wise decision to keep the feature disabled.

I do have the power to make people only be able to change a person's glitch power ONCE and that's it by raising the limit on hours to 999999999999999999999999999 which will make drama hard to make and/or even to happen without someone being dumb (the last system allowed every 6 hours so if someone hated someone, they could lower it 4 times in one day everyday which is what caused the drama in the first place since people were lowering it out of spite.)
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Glisp on April 28, 2009, 05:52:03 pm
You can do that?!!! YOU MONSTER!!! XD
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 28, 2009, 06:01:24 pm
I could also make it to where it's once a half month or every half year or a lengthy time frame.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Glisp on April 28, 2009, 06:12:51 pm
Your terrible! I love it! however you still need to convince Abwayax! You've got my approval but I don't really count as a victory. The real victory is convincing Abwayax which evidentially will not be an easy task as you know all too well.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Fivex on April 28, 2009, 06:14:20 pm
If this get's reenabled, I call once a month should be the time frame.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 28, 2009, 06:18:00 pm
Your terrible! I love it! however you still need to convince Abwayax! You've got my approval but I don't really count as a victory. The real victory is convincing Abwayax which evidentially will not be an easy task as you know all too well.

Umm... it is hard, but I've done it before... (not that it's good to do. (He DOES own the server.))  How do you think we have the GCLF 2.0 theme?

Edit: (A basic outline of how this theme came to be:

I saw the awesomeness of SMF Core and how (at the time) GCLF 1.0 theme was broken due to SMF 2.0.  I wanted to revamp it and did so, the only thing was Abwayax was wondering why I was doing it and really disapproved of it.  Newo and I were thinkning of what pictures to use for the Main Index to say what was posted in.  We decided on using the original decamark, PLOSION, and whatever Newo's decmark was.  Anyway, the theme was near completion and Abwayax started to like the theme but said "Use the Bulbasaurs from the main theme or your theme doesn't become the default theme."  As you can see, the Bulbasaurs were added and it is now the main theme.)
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Glisp on April 28, 2009, 06:24:43 pm
You mean he gets grouchy after you convince him? No surprise really. After all, what's a good head admin if they aren't constantly in a bad mood about something? (I'm joking but hey, head admins generally have to pretend to be grouches so they can instill fear into their peons/underlings.)
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 28, 2009, 06:26:34 pm
No, not that he gets grouchy, just... I don't know.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: extreme forkton supreme on April 28, 2009, 06:40:48 pm
If this isn't improved, no harm done. It's not like the end of the world, right? Let's not pressure anyone to re-enable what some don't want and most don't need.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Abwayax on April 28, 2009, 08:45:03 pm
Karma/Glitch Power was disabled in 2007 because users had been consistently "draining" each other over and over again (1 (http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,1278.0.html) 2 (http://forums.glitchcity.info/index.php/topic,1280.0.html)). I see it as a pointless popularity thing and I for one don't like the concept of popularity very much. Nonetheless, as some of the users seem to want it back (particularly some late 2007/2008 members who weren't even here to use the feature) including some staff, I'm re-enabling it. The caveat is that all users' Glitch Power is reset to +0/-0 (this can't be done from the admin CP, it's a database operation).

The other caveat is that there is a post quota set on it (25 posts, which nearly everyone has). When the new rank system comes in (see the "ranks and badges" thread) the drain/boost ability will probably be relegated to the second level member rank.

Edit: Goddamn it stop enabling post count, I had that disabled for a reason too

Abwayax started to like the theme but said "Use the Bulbasaurs from the main theme or your theme doesn't become the default theme."  As you can see, the Bulbasaurs were added and it is now the main theme.)
I'll have you know, those Bulbasaurs are a tradition that dates all the way back to the old Glitchcity.net in 2005
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Newo on April 29, 2009, 11:18:03 am
I've never seen much point in it, but that is mainly because people always corrupted my perfect score.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Jolteon on April 29, 2009, 11:41:37 am
Perfect score?
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 29, 2009, 01:16:31 pm
Post count re-enables by itself when Karma is reactivated so I deactivated it; that annoyed me too.

I already knew those Bulbasaurs were from the 2005 GCL. You've told me before.

Now that I think of it, Decamarks would be odd to have on the board index.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Brocco Guy on April 29, 2009, 01:41:43 pm
Perfect score?
Of negative karma.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on April 29, 2009, 03:34:04 pm
I see it as a pointless popularity thing and I for one don't like the concept of popularity very much.

Since it's called Glitch Power, I've always thought of it being a weird way of showing someone's ability to glitch(+)/unglitch(-) games and not popularity.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Glisp on April 29, 2009, 07:49:25 pm
I'm probably not going to use this feature often. I don't know why. I just know I'm probably not.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Lauryn the Arisen on April 29, 2009, 07:59:34 pm
Well, why not have other glitches on the forums, like MissingNo. (Fossils, Ghost, Pixel), Charizard 'M, and so on. We are a glitch forum after all. And I still don't get this glitch power. (No point explaining to me, I'd still not understand. Curse my disability!)
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: xparasite9 on April 29, 2009, 09:26:35 pm
no, I'd have to say having the karma system is pretty stupid. I wish I could just make it to where it doesn't show up on my profile info, and therefore have no need to complain, but no. I'm going to b***h about this.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Fivex on April 29, 2009, 09:53:51 pm
no, I'd have to say having the karma system is pretty stupid. I wish I could just make it to where it doesn't show up on my profile info, and therefore have no need to complain, but no. I'm going to b***h about this.
And THATS why they have karma.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: xparasite9 on April 29, 2009, 10:24:04 pm
no, I'd have to say having the karma system is pretty stupid. I wish I could just make it to where it doesn't show up on my profile info, and therefore have no need to complain, but no. I'm going to b***h about this.
And THATS why they have karma.
I see what you did there. I'm not blind. I can see my profile data. And this is leading to exactly what I don't like.
EDIT: I did something quite unprofessional just a few minutes ago at the time of this edit. I am now undoing it.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: IIMarckus on April 29, 2009, 10:47:12 pm
no, I'd have to say having the karma system is pretty stupid. I wish I could just make it to where it doesn't show up on my profile info, and therefore have no need to complain, but no. I'm going to b***h about this.
Oh come on, you know everybody will boost you anyway. *boosts*
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Zach the Glitch Buster on May 01, 2009, 06:06:26 pm
Eh... Kinda stupid if you ask me. Its not at all a real representation of popularity at the fourms. Newo is well respected and because of a joke his is at -60000 or something. So is xparasite9's but I don't know how it got that low with out everyone trolling on him. (Which I can see happening easily)
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Fivex on May 02, 2009, 01:05:25 am
Thats when you use administrator powerrs I guess.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Hydrall on May 02, 2009, 05:41:31 am
Wait, what? If its so pointless, why'd we bring it back?

Huh.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Jolteon on May 02, 2009, 06:52:23 am
I think it was bought back because the admins got bored.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Prisma on May 02, 2009, 11:49:34 pm
I really liked this feature, mainly because I used it as karma/post rating i.e if someone had a bad reputation and they made a good post I would +1 that person and vice versa, or if someone just made a really good post and or contributed something great or a lot to the community, I myself see this as the only reasonable and beneficial way to use this feature, I would like it if people would not mess it up for us who intend to use it the right way.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Jolteon on May 03, 2009, 02:48:58 am
But of course, you will get the odd one or two people who make a fuss, sorta like:

"Why was I given -1? I never did anything" and other, less well typed variations.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Missing? NO! on May 03, 2009, 09:21:48 am
But of course, you will get the odd one or two people who make a fuss, sorta like:

"Why was I given -1? I never did anything" and other, less well typed variations.
Bottom line: LIMIT DRAMA.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Brocco Guy on May 03, 2009, 10:09:22 am
But of course, you will get the odd one or two people who make a fuss, sorta like:

"Why was I given -1? I never did anything" and other, less well typed variations.
Bottom line: LIMIT DRAMA.

Why not have no drama?
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Zach the Glitch Buster on May 03, 2009, 10:10:10 am
But of course, you will get the odd one or two people who make a fuss, sorta like:

"Why was I given -1? I never did anything" and other, less well typed variations.
Bottom line: LIMIT DRAMA.
Something this thread is failing to do.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Prisma on May 03, 2009, 03:27:05 pm
Thats why Im hoping people will be mature and not cry about there glitch power.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: extreme forkton supreme on May 03, 2009, 08:27:30 pm
I'm unsure why Glitch Power even caused drama in the first place. It doesn't affect the user at all in the first place, other than a changing number near the username. All the more reason to have carefree fun with it.
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Missing? NO! on May 03, 2009, 08:30:39 pm
I'm unsure why Glitch Power even caused drama in the first place. It doesn't affect the user at all in the first place, other than a changing number near the username. All the more reason to have carefree fun with it.
It doesn't really matter, it's just some little number to have fun with!
Title: Re: Glitch Power is Back... or is it? You decide.
Post by: Dust in the Wind on May 04, 2009, 03:14:58 am
I'm unsure why Glitch Power even caused drama in the first place. It doesn't affect the user at all in the first place, other than a changing number near the username. All the more reason to have carefree fun with it.
Post counts are the also a little number with very little actual meaning but all over the internet there are forums where the members cause a big fuss about them.

I have no strong opinion one way or the other on the karma/"glitch power" system.