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Title: Grammar
Post by: Brocco Guy on July 13, 2009, 08:42:27 pm
-BROCCO GUY'S GRAMMAR GUIDE-



You saw this coming.



Preliminary Grammar Notes:
Please note that every personal pronoun is capitalized, (eg. Names, cities), single 'I's are capitalized and every sentence ends in a period.



1. Apostrophes
Misuse of apostrophes is, and will always be, my biggest pet peeve. They are so often used incorrectly, especially in the case of possessive ITS. As a general rule, an apostrophe comes in place of a vowel.  (eg. It's (It is), They're (They are) and Don't (Do not)) However, when used with the letters ITS, they get a different spin.

ITS is odd in its way of having no apostrophe be possessive. When you say 'It's' you are saying it is, but if you say 'Its' you are saying that the object in question belongs to, or pertains to, 'It'. To remember this in simpler terms, if 'Her' fits logically where you want to put 'Its', you are putting the correct format. If 'It is' fits logically, you should use 'It's'.

In other cases apostrophe S is used to describe possession, whereas S at the end of a word is used for plural. (eg. Jack's Pianos, Jack having mulitple pianos.)



2. Commas
Commas are used as a breather in a sentence. If you want to add a pause to a sentence, you would use a comma. If you want to seperate two or more things, you would use a comma. (eg. 'I thank my parents, Jack and Jill.' In this you are thanking your parents and stating their names. In 'I thank my parents, Jack, and Jill' you are saying that you thank your parents, a person named Jack and a person named Jill.)

The book Eats, Shoots and Leaves makes a good point in the title by simply using excessive commas to portray verbs instead of nouns. The Panda 'eats shoots and leaves', not the Panda 'eats, shoots, and leaves.' In the former it says that the Panda eats certain foods, whereas in the second it says that the Panda walks in, eats food, shoots people and leaves.

By using excessive commas, it is hard to understand you and you could have a totally different meaning than what you intended. If you use commas correctly, you are easier to understand.



3. I Versus Me
I and me are often misused. (eg. Peter and me are going on a walk, That book belongs to Peter and I.) Those are both wrong. The easiest way to figure this out is to take away the name. 'Peter and me' becomes me and 'Peter and I' becomes I. After this it is easy to see which is which.

In general, I refers to the person performing the verb, whereas me refers to the person that the verb is happening to.

For the case of Us Versus We, just use 'we' where you could use I and 'us' for where you could use me.



4. Affect Versus Effect
This rule, like the I Versus Me rule, is easy to grasp and only takes a bit of brainspace. Affect is used as a verb, whereas effect is used as a noun. (eg. I affect the Goats, the Goats do not like the effect.) In this case, I am doing something to the Goats, and thus affecting them. They do not like the effect of what I am doing to them. Affect is a verb, effect is a noun.

(MORE TO COME.)
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: IIMarckus on July 13, 2009, 09:58:00 pm
Apostrophes are, and will always be, my biggest pet peeve.
They are? Sounds like you mean the misuse of apostrophes.

/pedant
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Brocco Guy on July 14, 2009, 07:25:29 am
No, I hate them. Period. But I will edit that.

EDIT: Done. I also added in a comma section.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Missing? NO! on July 14, 2009, 12:16:11 pm
Helpful to the newbies!
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Brocco Guy on July 14, 2009, 12:41:14 pm
That's why I'm writing it.

Finished I Versus Me.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Sherkel on July 14, 2009, 06:11:54 pm
This should be in Forum Announcements. It should be linked to in the board description, in fact.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Missing? NO! on July 15, 2009, 09:31:48 am
Someone move, please?
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Sherkel on July 15, 2009, 04:30:16 pm
Done.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Don Watermeleon on July 15, 2009, 09:08:26 pm
If someone ever gets banned for using an apostrophe wrong or typing "me" in a nominative clause, I'm going to facepalm.  :-\

But thanks for writing this up. The grammar on GCL isn't that bad, but I can tell you put a lot of effort in this and it should help some new users.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Fivex on July 15, 2009, 10:53:45 pm
If someone ever gets banned for using an apostrophe wrong or typing "me" in a nominative clause, I'm going to facepalm.  :-\

But thanks for writing this up. The grammar on GCL isn't that bad, but I can tell you put a lot of effort in this and it should help some new users.
Dons back!
Also, I agree
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Zach the Glitch Buster on July 15, 2009, 11:53:11 pm
Stickied because of usefulness and awesomeness. 

EDIT: Linked to in the fourm rules.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Missing? NO! on July 16, 2009, 10:25:09 am
If someone ever gets banned for using an apostrophe wrong or typing "me" in a nominative clause, I'm going to facepalm.  :-\

But thanks for writing this up. The grammar on GCL isn't that bad, but I can tell you put a lot of effort in this and it should help some new users.
Everyone's coming back, it seems.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Brocco Guy on July 16, 2009, 04:19:09 pm
Finished up I Versus Me with the addition of Us Versus We, or maybe I should put it We Versus Us? I also added Affect Versus Effect.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: King Homer on July 16, 2009, 04:22:05 pm
If someone ever gets banned for using an apostrophe wrong or typing "me" in a nominative clause, I'm going to facepalm.  :-\

But thanks for writing this up. The grammar on GCL isn't that bad, but I can tell you put a lot of effort in this and it should help some new users.
Everyone's coming back, it seems.

Like me for example.

For some reason, I often mix up "now" and "know" when I write. Don't ask me why, but it's always been a problem for me and I have no idea why.

This should help new members.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Missing? NO! on July 16, 2009, 05:31:58 pm
I remember in the 3rd grade when I forgot how to spell "of" for a day.
Good times...
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Zowayix on July 16, 2009, 07:00:30 pm
4. Affect Versus Effect
This rule, like the I Versus Me rule, is easy to grasp and only takes a bit of brainspace. Affect is used as a verb, whereas effect is used as a noun. (eg. I affect the Goats, the Goats do not like the effect.) In this case, I am doing something to the Goats, and thus affecting them. They do not like the effect of what I am doing to them. Affect is a verb, effect is a noun.
(http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/effect_an_effect.png)
Pic related.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: Abwayax on July 16, 2009, 10:05:34 pm
If someone ever gets banned for using an apostrophe wrong or typing "me" in a nominative clause, I'm going to facepalm.  :-\

I've never banned anyone for misusing an apostrophe.
Title: Re: Grammar
Post by: danny on October 30, 2016, 11:04:37 am
I remember in the 3rd grade when I forgot how to spell "of" for a day.
Good times...

Necrobump although it's a sticky so I don't care.

I had that same exact thing, but with the word "was". I kept thinking "wuzz? waz? No, waz means piss. whasz? juas? How the hell do you spell it?"