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Title: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 15 minutes!
Post by: Aera on February 10, 2017, 02:58:45 pm
(https://i.imgur.com/0sx6O07.png)(https://i.imgur.com/qAbLzAQ.png)


Video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJMeRwJsqmc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJMeRwJsqmc)


Prerequisites:

A Pokémon with Fly or Teleport
The Explorer Kit (Use it before you enter the void, you will crash otherwise)
The Bicycle
The Berry Finder or Marking Map
Poké Balls


From the Poketch Co. Void:

1 South

17 West

14 North

638 West

Save and Reset

211 West

1489 South

96 East

448 South

96 East

576 South

211 East

47 South

Refresh the graphics, if you freeze, reset the game.

Save and Reset

IMPORTANT SIDENOTE: Your step counter DOES NOT work in the Battle Tower Void, you will have to count some steps yourself

East until you hit an invisible wall

North until you hit an invisible wall

9 South

23 East

North until you hit an invisible wall

2 South

Change your Poketch app to the Berry Finder/Marking Map


Darkrai:

East until your map shows you on Newmoon Island

1 West repeatedly until you're above Iron Island on your map

14 East

Save and Reset


Shaymin:

East until you're above the highest part of Route 224 (Where the white rock is located) on your map

1 West repeatedly until you’re above the lower part of Route 224 on your map

16 East

Save and Reset



Pokémon Bank requirements:

Darkrai:
Caught in Diamond Version
Level 50
Doesn't know the move Pursuit

Shaymin:
Cannot be transferred


Videos:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT7V0aFUlZ0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT7V0aFUlZ0)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbLh2q9c3E (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbLh2q9c3E)



Credits:

Everyone at the Hall of Origin Discord server
MKDasher for finalising most of this route
SatoMew for their video on this void
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Krys3000 on February 11, 2017, 07:16:24 am
Holy sh-

I'm testing this asap and tell you more. Congratz! That's a game-killer move :)

EDIT: It works for Darkrai. That's truely amazing, thanks!
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Krys3000 on February 12, 2017, 08:58:06 am
Just for the record on how to use this trick to Cresselia.

East until you’re underneath Fullmoon Island

1W repeatedly until you’re not underneath Fullmoon Island anymore.

42 N

1 E (If you hit an invisible wall, go 1 N  1 E)

North until you hit an invisible wall

5 S

12 E

SR

Cresselia!
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on February 12, 2017, 01:49:17 pm
Didn't even consider Cresselia, good job on finding that
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Zowayix001 on February 12, 2017, 06:35:29 pm
Wait, saving in the Mystery Zone was what made this whole thing possible? I know in international D/P releases you can't open the menu in the (non-Battle Tower) Mystery Zone, but couldn't you still save with a registered Explorer Kit in any Mystery Zone?
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on February 13, 2017, 12:13:30 pm
Saving in a Mystery Zone did make this whole thing possible, I actually was curious about the explorer kit too, turns out it just gives you the same message as if you were trying to use it indoors.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Deku-Kitty on March 02, 2017, 09:36:06 pm
They said it would be impossible to obtain Arceus. They said it would be impossible to quickly get Shaymin and Darkrai.
The glitch community always finds a way.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Krys3000 on March 03, 2017, 05:29:37 am
Now I say it's impossible to get Heatran to appear before having the National Dex.

PROVE ME WRONG FOLKS  :D
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: camper on March 03, 2017, 06:12:55 am
Now I say it's impossible to get Heatran to appear before having the National Dex.

PROVE ME WRONG FOLKS  :D

Would RETIRE trick work?
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: ISSOtm on March 03, 2017, 07:26:34 am
Believe it or not, MKDasher is finding a way IIRC, and Aera and them are looking for a "speedrun" way of doing so :)
YOU'RE WRONG KRYS
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Krys3000 on March 03, 2017, 08:45:29 am
I'M SO PROUD BEING WRONG  ;D

Now I say it's impossible to get Heatran to appear before having the National Dex.

PROVE ME WRONG FOLKS  :D

Would RETIRE trick work?

I guess there's a chance indeed that the retire trick allows the National Dex to be obtained. Then we would just have to go to Stark Mountain.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: SatoMew on March 03, 2017, 09:18:59 am
Nice find, Aera!  :)

Wait, saving in the Mystery Zone was what made this whole thing possible? I know in international D/P releases you can't open the menu in the (non-Battle Tower) Mystery Zone, but couldn't you still save with a registered Explorer Kit in any Mystery Zone?

You can only use the Explorer Kit on most Mystery Zones in the early Japanese copies, (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97ZXk3ZP1iw) except in the Mystery Zone that is actually the Underground (or random Mystery Zones with the properties of the Underground like the one found at 237N/238N from Pokétch Co.).
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on March 12, 2017, 04:56:06 am
Believe it or not, MKDasher is finding a way IIRC, and Aera and them are looking for a "speedrun" way of doing so :)
YOU'RE WRONG KRYS

We *were* doing that, turns out the flags seem to be very delicate so no progress has been made past a route to Stark Mountain and the Survival Area. I'll probably revisit Tran when everything else has been done.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on March 12, 2017, 04:58:41 am
Would RETIRE trick work?
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Every legendary using the RETIRE trick has been checked, Arceus is the only one that works unfortunately.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Deku-Kitty on March 15, 2017, 08:36:55 am
Question, how does leveling up Arceus to 100 make it transferable? Unless I'm not in the loop, current methods cause Arceus to be shown as caught in the Mystery Zone and not the Hall of Origin. Wouldn't that discrepancy make it impossible to transfer at all?
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on March 18, 2017, 09:37:35 am
Question, how does leveling up Arceus to 100 make it transferable? Unless I'm not in the loop, current methods cause Arceus to be shown as caught in the Mystery Zone and not the Hall of Origin. Wouldn't that discrepancy make it impossible to transfer at all?

I also thought that there would be problems because of the "Mystery Zone" caught location but it turns out if you level it up to 100 in the game you caught it in Pokebank seems to think it's a non Azure Flute event Arceus and lets it through. The Mystery Zone caught location isn't shown in Sun and Moon (or gen 6) which suggests it's removed from the Pokémon's data which would also explain why it isn't rejected for being problematic.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Krys3000 on March 18, 2017, 09:53:46 am
Question, how does leveling up Arceus to 100 make it transferable? Unless I'm not in the loop, current methods cause Arceus to be shown as caught in the Mystery Zone and not the Hall of Origin. Wouldn't that discrepancy make it impossible to transfer at all?

In fact we do have methods allowing the HoO capture. It's just not documented here yet but works fine, although it's longer.

1 S
17 O
14 N
895 O
510 S
XABB S/R
128 O
32 N
992 O
73000 N
Reset counter
502 N
1 N / 1 S repeatedly until you hear spear pillar music.
XABB S/R
251 S
252 N (last step not counted)
2816 S
288 O
RETIRE, Catch Arceus
2 S
288 E
2565 N
252 N
RETIRE
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on March 19, 2017, 06:02:30 am
Quote
In fact we do have methods allowing the HoO capture. It's just not documented here yet but works fine, although it's longer.

1 S
17 O
14 N
895 O
510 S
XABB S/R
128 O
32 N
992 O
73000 N
Reset counter
502 N
1 N / 1 S repeatedly until you hear spear pillar music.
XABB S/R
251 S
252 N (last step not counted)
2816 S
288 O
RETIRE, Catch Arceus
2 S
288 E
2565 N
252 N
RETIRE

There's an 11k route mk finalised, a lot better than this one
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Krys3000 on March 19, 2017, 07:43:04 am
I need to check that again, I seem to remember we had trouble with other routes in french games. Thanks!
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: SatoMew on March 22, 2017, 07:00:17 pm
The Mystery Zone caught location isn't shown in Sun and Moon (or gen 6) which suggests it's removed from the Pokémon's data which would also explain why it isn't rejected for being problematic.

In Diamond, Pearl, Platinum, HeartGold, and SoulSilver, there are two "Mystery Zone" headers: 0000 is for maps while 07DC is a caught location. All games afterwards have a single "Mystery Zone" header that goes unused.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: epicnessness on April 19, 2017, 03:43:08 pm
I transferred my level 50 Darkrai (from Pearl) to my Pokemon Black 2, but Pokemon Transporter doesn't let it through. I made sure that it didn't know Pursuit, but it still doesn't work.
What's the problem?
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on April 26, 2017, 09:26:41 am
Did you level it up to level 50 in pearl?
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: epicnessness on May 01, 2017, 11:08:06 pm
Yes I did.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Gravedigger on May 04, 2017, 12:31:28 pm
Question, how does leveling up Arceus to 100 make it transferable? Unless I'm not in the loop, current methods cause Arceus to be shown as caught in the Mystery Zone and not the Hall of Origin. Wouldn't that discrepancy make it impossible to transfer at all?

There are ways to get Arceus found in the right location, which makes it transferable!
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on May 06, 2017, 02:24:48 am
Yes I did.

No idea then, there could be info i dont know since i dont use bank to transfer my mons.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on May 06, 2017, 02:26:07 am
Oh and Mystery Zone Arceus should be transferable, the caught location is erased when it is sent to gen 5 i think
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Flandre Scarlet on May 06, 2017, 07:20:13 pm
Caught location doesn't matter since there is no normal way to catch Arceus only get it via event. The problem is it isn't a faithful encounter (I think) and more importantly it isn't in a Cherish Ball.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Krys3000 on July 06, 2017, 04:17:30 am
I've received another report saying that transfering Darkrai is impossible. Even if it matches the exact conditions of the Darkrai caught in Platinum with the Member Card: same level, same moves, same ability. Is it really something that has been tested before?
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Aera on July 12, 2017, 02:39:33 pm
I've been unable to test it because there's no other good reason for me to buy Bank. The guy who gave me the information said it was tested and I've definitely seen an Arceus transferred from Gen 4 in Sun and Moon.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Krys3000 on July 13, 2017, 07:03:23 am
Ok, thanks for the reply!

It may work with Arceus indeed, and might just not work with Darkrai with these conditions. At least we don't know how to make it work yet. If someone knows, don't hesitate!
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Krys3000 on July 14, 2017, 09:07:44 am
In my opinion, GF knows the Elite 4 Glitch and knows that it allows to catch Darkrai and Shaymin in D/P (but not Arceus). It is possible that they know the Tweaking Trick as well, but it couldn't be used to catch Arceus back then.

Thus, while conceiving the bank, they blocked every Shaymin and Darkrai caught on D/P. It is possible that the bank allows the distributed ones (Darkrai ALMIA and Shaymin TRU) to pass. I don't know anyone that has them to test it.

However, they didn't secured D/P's Arceus, since there was no way to get one.
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Parzival on July 14, 2017, 12:40:12 pm
Thus, while conceiving the bank, they blocked every Shaymin and Darkrai caught on D/P. It is possible that the bank allows the distributed ones (Darkrai ALMIA and Shaymin TRU) to pass. I don't know anyone that has them to test it.

However, they didn't secured D/P's Arceus, since there was no way to get one.
If I had a 3DS, i'd be having SO MUCH FUN right now...
Because I'd be injecting all sorts of custom s**t (https://projectpokemon.org/forums/forums/topic/4470-ppse-ds-r11/) into my PokeBank.

I'm such an arsehole to games. ;D
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: Charmy on July 16, 2017, 01:03:43 pm
on 576 S I hit a row of jubilifes and pokémon leagues, is that even normal?
Title: Re: Obtaining Shaymin and Darkrai with the Void Glitch in 10 minutes!
Post by: ISSOtm on July 16, 2017, 01:46:12 pm
According to Aera, if the "Pokémon League" locations play the Pokémon Centre theme, it's all righty. You can do a BSoD test just to be sure.
Also the Jubilife-s are normal.