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Title: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Hate92 on March 18, 2019, 03:18:28 am
Hi, sorry for this first message in this forum, i reach the link from Chika on Youtube (i'm a subscribe from these.)

Her name is "LEYXARDON 775200a" and this glitch Pokèmon is really incredible, sprite and music are peculiar, i invite to show this video. Please i would like your opinion, expert.

The video is:

https://youtu.be/bX-6Ris4L0E
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Krys3000 on March 18, 2019, 08:09:34 am
Welcome to the boards, Hate92!

What is this? An elaborated fake using ACE? A hackrom?
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Hate92 on March 18, 2019, 08:50:37 am
Welcome to the boards, Hate92!

What is this? An elaborated fake using ACE? A hackrom?
Fake? Hackrom? NO, is a original Pokèmon Yellow UK version
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on March 18, 2019, 10:19:57 am
I didn't watch the entire hour, but I think I get the general point. While I don't understand Italian, Krys seems to have the right idea. It's an extremely elaborate use of ACE, with the sprite presumably loaded into SRAM beforehand (it could be that he programmed it in from scratch byte-by-byte, but I don't think even an hour of continuous inputs is enough time for that).

All in all, it's a solid example of what can be done with these games with modern glitching, and is highly in-depth if not a bit over-the-top. I don't know Italian, so maybe there's more to it, but it's not a new discovery nor the first ACE video I would point someone to. Still a very cool demonstration even if I'd recommend skipping to the last 15 minutes.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Krys3000 on March 18, 2019, 03:13:25 pm
Italian is my mother tongue, but I skipped some passage of the video so I may miss something. However it seems that this Youtuber wants people to believe it's a real thing, not SRAM loading followed by complex ACE shenanigans, and tries to fool people by adding a lot of unnecessary stuff.

I'm not sure what is his point here. Seeing the comments, this Youtuber seems to be fairly respected and a good Pokémon glitch source. Maybe it's meant to be an early april's fool?
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on March 18, 2019, 11:39:09 pm
Ohh, okay. Looking through the video a bit more, there are a lot of dead giveaways, like the nicknames, levels, counting frames in the Safari Zone, and probably more. The Ghost battle system and save erasing are also way too obviously contrived. The comments and description seem to suggest he's trying to pass it off as something new that was always in the code, so...

I still say let him get the recognition he gets. I mean, he learned a lot about ACE, text pointer manipulation, and other major glitches, he commissioned a full design for Leyxardon in addition to a sprite, and he put it all together into a video that entertained a lot of people. It'll inevitably be seen for what it is if it gets popular enough, but I'll be honest: I like it. Why? Because it reminds me of certain times soon after I discovered Pokémon that I had almost completely forgotten about.

When I first got Internet access, it goes without saying that I rushed straight to lots of now-dead Pokémon sites, and my impressionable mind would think "Damn! What if I really did open up my cartridge and put it in backwards to get a Mist Stone and evolve Mewtwo into Mewthree, or talk to Oak one million times to get a Pikablu?!" The ideas alone of the "Pokégods" were exciting enough to add to my enjoyment of the series when I was younger, so seeing someone finally take that concept and combine it with the complexity of modern glitching is cool in my opinion.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Hate92 on March 19, 2019, 04:54:26 am
Ok guys.... it's clear that you think it is false. I posted the video in this forum because "glitchcity" is the best Pokèmon site for the glitch, i wanted opinions from you experts.

The thing is that "Dio del Metal" it never seemed to me a false person... however i am here because i have skepticism from this biggest glitch. But the video has only 1 dislike and never discussion from the authenticity, never comment, never question, none of its members have the skills to speak?
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Hate92 on March 19, 2019, 04:55:35 am
Italian is my mother tongue, but I skipped some passage of the video so I may miss something. However it seems that this Youtuber wants people to believe it's a real thing, not SRAM loading followed by complex ACE shenanigans, and tries to fool people by adding a lot of unnecessary stuff.

I'm not sure what is his point here. Seeing the comments, this Youtuber seems to be fairly respected and a good Pokémon glitch source. Maybe it's meant to be an early april's fool?
Ciao! Seriamente, cosa ne pensi di tutto questo? Non può proprio essere veritiero?
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Krys3000 on March 19, 2019, 09:35:56 am
Seriamente, di sicuro quel Pokémon non si trova nel gioco. E stato aggiunto, pero può essere stato aggiunto con dei glitch (altri che quelli del video). Continuo in Inglese cosi capiscono tutti :)

It's funny that you say that, Sherkel, because I felt the same back then. The whole 'Pokégod' thing is what motivated me to enter in the glitch zone in the first place :)

Regarding the video itself, it's indeed very interesting, because regardless of how this 'glitch Pokémon data' was integrated in the game (through hacking tools or more ACE not shown in video) it still seems to be summoned via glitching (ACE mostly). I'm still not sure if Dio del Metal is aware of which part of what he does in the vid is nonsense and which parts actually summons the integrated data. He could be trying to create a creepypasta or something, or genuinly believing that he discovered something. Or just having fun with a good fake :)

Anyway thanks for sharing this Hate92! If you need some other opinions on Youtube vids don't hesitate to ask :)
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Parzival on March 19, 2019, 12:41:12 pm
Seriamente, di sicuro quel Pokémon non si trova nel gioco. E stato aggiunto, pero può essere stato aggiunto con dei glitch (altri che quelli del video). Continuo in Inglese cosi capiscono tutti :)
lemme try and translate this without a translator or the ability to understand the language:
seriously? I think?(, di sicuro quel) Pokemon (non si trova nel gioco. E stato) aggravate? aggravated? aggravating?(, pero può essere stato) again, aggravate or aggravated, aggravating, maybe? (con dei) glitch ((altri che quelli del ) video). Continue in English (cosi) something about captions, perhaps? (tutti) :)

how close am I
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Krys3000 on March 19, 2019, 02:06:52 pm
Fairly not close :P sorry but it's always a good thing to try  ;)
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on March 19, 2019, 02:24:54 pm
From the video, "gioco" seems to be "game". (Lots of words for that start with a palato-alveolar fricative, as does my username.) So, my best guess would be something like "Seriously, [it's] for sure that the Pokémon is not in the game. In a state...?, but it could exist in a state with glitches (other than those in the video). I'm continuing in English...for all the rest?"
EDIT: Ah, "aggiunto" is "added". So, "it's from a modified state, but the state could have been modified with glitches" is probably closer.

Well, whatever. Interesting to hear we had a similar story with the rumors of old, Krys!
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: ISSOtm on March 19, 2019, 06:35:50 pm
I just got a quick glance at the video and Google Translate'd the description, and this is definitely a fake. Disclaimer: I don't speak a word of Italian, so I'll be mostly focusing on the video's description, since I have no idea what the guy is saying. There's already a lot to be discussed there. Then I'll quickly talk about the video - sorry if this post is rough around all the edges, it's 1:30 as I'm wrapping it up and viewing this pissed me off pretty hard.


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Nei meandri più oscuri di Giallo Inglese (Yellow Version/Pikachu Version), esattamente nella 1° Edizione del titolo in questione poichè ne sono uscite 3 successive
This seems to mean he found a glitch in the first version of the three US Yellow versions. That's BS, only JP Yellow had different versions. (This can be confirmed by searching Dat-o-Matic (https://datomatic.no-intro.org) for pocket_monsters for the JP version, the US version can be searched as well.

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io vi porto la verità, ho brutalizzato la leggenda metropolitana di Luxor che non ha ne capo ne coda e invece vi mostro come evocare in un qualsiasi Giallo Inglese il famigerato Leyxardon 775200a, che ha effetti e comportamenti peculiari, e sembra essere effettivamente un Pokemon originale scartato o non implementato!
This is a repeated claim that this is 100% legit etc etc, but this is not an unimplemented Pokémon - it would have already been figured out by the disasms, I'm pretty sure (there's a remote chance I'm wrong here, but considering the context in which this discovery is introduced I don't believe it.)

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I Glitch utilizzati per Evocare Leyxardon 775200a: - Missingno. items stack duplication glitch; - Pokemon Silver Eng Coin Case Ibrids Impossible Movesets Glitch; - Trainer Escape with Ditto Glitch; - Multiple Safari Zone Dark Corruption Glitch; - Trainer Escape Glitch Forcing and NPC Manipulation Drop lv.80; - Reverse Arbitrary Code Execution; - Chrono End Safari Message Glitch; - Specials Dex List Manipulation (Pokemon, levels, items ecc...) 77-5-99-99-2-1 Glitch; - Card Key (Apriporta) Temporaney Arbitrary Down Arrow Manipulation Glitch; - Forcing 8f With Manipulation to become Wall Hacking item (Ghost Mode/Sparta effect) Glitch; - Grotta Celeste 3° Piano Manipolazione Glitch!
Some glitches here do in fact exist (Missingno. items stack duplication glitch, Ditto Glitch), but the rest is just plain made up. "Multiple Safari Zone Dark Corruption Glitch" is making the dark palette from the cave linger by warping to the Safari Zone. Big whoop, that's merely a graphical effect and does not corrupt anything. NPC Manipulation Drop lv 80, Reverse ACE, Specials Dex List Manipulation, 77-5-99-99-2-1 Glitch, and actually most of the glitches listed here are made up names, and straight up don't mean anything. Like, what's Reverse ACE?!?

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Tutto questo è stato possibile con l'aiuto di Michael Myers, che mi ha aiutato fino a metà "metodo", quindi lo ringrazio moltissimo per avermi indirizzato su quali settori dell'opcode Z80 cercare per trovare il fottutissimo pokemon annesso al 775200a!
...Michael Myers? ...Ok.
Also, just a nitpick, but the Game Boy's CPU isn't a z80. Valid names are either GBz80, LR35902 or SM83. I can let that go - it's  common mistake - but it shows the guy Did Not Do The Bloody Research (https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DidNotDoTheBloodyResearch) ;D


As for the video itself, well, YouTube's auto-translated auto-generated comments only work out one word correctly out of, what, 20, so I had to make up (and skip large chunks because it's 1am :') )

A thing I absolutely have to criticize is the made-up timing things he's doing - it's extremely rare for a glitch in Pokémon games that relies on timing to be as lenient as he is. He is starting his timers in moments that are not related to what the game is doing (for example, well after the map-loading routine is done, so he's starting the timer while nothing special is happening).

The gfx reloading when he uses a Card key is also very fishy imo. Smells like ACE or a hacked ROM.

Also, I catched a moment where he appears to be paraphrasing all video game creepypastas with "the game was causing people to act irrational" etc etc. ("Appears to" because I only have incredibly botched subtitles to base myself off of.) I also saw a reference to the truck at some point, which has been thoroughly debunked at this point.


I do think this is a quickly cobbled together ROM hack - they're easy af to make using the disassemblies. The corrupted Cerulean Cave 1F can be done by just modifying its tileset ID and repointing the block data to garbage.
Debunking it won't be very effective either - the video is made to impress, and the guy insists a lot on sharing etc etc. I could help constructing a more structured and clear post about why this is a fake, but I don't believe people will care, especially since respectable people like Sherk had the reaction he had.

This "eh it's a well-done fake and it's a cute Pokégod legend" argument is utter BS. This IS a lie. It's a fake. It's misinformation. This thing shouldn't be treated like it's acceptable.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on March 19, 2019, 07:40:32 pm
Eh, it's on the fringes of Pokémon's internet presence, though. If the foremost sources on prototypes and glitching (ZZAZZ, Crystal_, Team Spaceworld, Helix Chamber, etc.) hadn't bound themselves to total integrity from the beginning, I might be saying something different. But if people want to do the research, they'll come here, as Hate92 did the day it was posted. Best case scenario, more curious potential members come here (or PRAMA) wondering what on Earth is up with this Leyxardon thing. Worst case scenario, the video becomes popular to the degree of something like the Pong one (super unlikely for the length and language alone,) and one of the aforementioned sources discredits it and gets an equal amount of attention soon afterward.

Bit unfortunate that it seems to be a straight-up ROM hack instead of just a lot of modified SRAM and WRAM, but it doesn't change my opinion. If someone wants to call it out, though, all they'd need to do is leave a comment saying "this has been posted to Glitch City Laboratories".

The video's staying up in any case. Should it go viral or snowball into more fake glitches, we were lucky to get our eye on it early.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Krys3000 on March 20, 2019, 02:54:00 am
Thanks for the careful analysis isso! It's way clearer now. I understand your upsetness also, as well as Sherkel's point of view.

Sherkel, "E stato" means "it was" but that was a tricky one to find. The rest is quite good. What I said was "Seriously, it's certain that this Pokémon is not in the game. It was added, but it could have been added with glitches (other than the ones in the video). I continue in English so everyone understands."
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Hate92 on March 20, 2019, 03:24:04 am
Thanks for the replies! i am not an expert, then i'm unable to answer in tone.

BUT..... i invited Dio del Metal in this forum, i hope that it reply here. I wouldn't be able to, I repeat  :)
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Krys3000 on March 20, 2019, 11:07:34 am
Watching more carefully and given his reaction to comments (basically loving all of them) and the absurd name he gives to the glitches he claims to use ("NPC Manipulation Drop lv.80", "Card Key Temporaney Arbitrary Down Arrow Manipulation Glitch", "Specials Dex List Manipulation 77-5-99-99-2-1 Glitch") I'm pretty convinced I was right earlier and this is an early april's fool.

It's somehow really similar to the absurd "catch regigigas and victini through void glitch" process that we made for PRAMA last april  ;D
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on March 23, 2019, 03:31:00 pm
So, I said I'd take back what I said if this rumor actually gained a serious following, doubting that it ever could. What I didn't realize (based on auto-translating the comments) was that Dio del Metal seems to lead a self-contained group of monolingual Italian-speaking glitchers who seem to be unanimously taking it as fact. It's not too many people if you're just counting, but it does seem to essentially be the whole Italian glitch fandom. I'm not really okay with that.

Where does this leave us? Either hoping it's an April Fool's trick (to be revealed, presumably, on April Fool's day), or in need of an Italian speaker to contact Dio directly to ask him what exactly he plans on doing with this video. Looking for opinions. Did you ever hear back from him, Hate92?
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Krys3000 on March 24, 2019, 03:50:11 pm
If necessary, I can discuss with him, send a message in italian on our behalf.

It's hard to evaluate the weight that Dio del Metal has on the Italian glitch community. I don't know any Pokémon glitch board in Italian...
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on March 25, 2019, 10:19:22 pm
It's hard to evaluate the weight that Dio del Metal has on the Italian glitch community. I don't know any Pokémon glitch board in Italian...
Nor do I. YouTube channels often become communities of their own, though, as his seems to have done.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: ISSOtm on March 26, 2019, 05:59:15 am
I am still firmly against leaving this be.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: DittoGlitch on March 27, 2019, 09:33:44 am
i know diodelMetal quite good  but i think this is quite fake since (i 'm italia, i understand the video) he says a lot during video " this is an hard glitch to emulate i wont explin" so many times . I cant say that is totally fake, since he's the only italian who knows all the glitch of old gen of Pokèmon, but seems strange and he cant explain what he does all the times like an excuse because probaly this Leyxardon it's something made up very well
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: ISSOtm on March 27, 2019, 01:47:29 pm
I am very positive that this is fake, and the modification is extremely basic - you can do that ultra easily using the disassemblies. If it was on hardware, I'd at least give him props for that, but he's using an emulator. Almost zero effort.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Parzival on March 27, 2019, 09:25:24 pm
i'd give him a tiny bit of credit for coming up with fake glitch names but that's just me
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on March 28, 2019, 03:39:28 am
Seeing how he responded here (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX-6Ris4L0E&lc=UgzfonPX7hs1Dnb6vi94AaABAg), I think this is getting out of hand.

To Krys3000, Hate92, DittoGlitch, et cetera, how does this sound?

Quote from: Google Translate
Ma puoi provarlo? Comprendiamo il codice molto bene. Dov'è lo sprite nello disassembly? Da quale posizione prende il nome? Attualmente, ogni fan italiano del glitch crede a qualsiasi cosa tu dica. Cosa vuoi fare con quel potere?
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Krys3000 on March 28, 2019, 11:49:17 am
Way understandable although not entirely correct. You should probably use "Capiamo" instead of "Comprendiamo". Since disassembly is an english word, it is more accurate to say "nel disassembly". Also, if glitch is meant to be plural here, you should use "dei" instead of "del".

If you want to ask a more elaborate thing, I can translate and relay an english text :)
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on March 28, 2019, 03:42:07 pm
I posted it, and changed it according to your suggestions. Thanks.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: ISSOtm on March 30, 2019, 07:56:09 am
That won't do anything -- as he said, this doesn't affect him, he's got what he's looking for: fame and clicks. That some people won't click because they think it's a fake can't bother him less.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: RashFaustinho on May 10, 2019, 01:46:37 am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5UqeT2CzSk

Well, turns out that another Italian youtuber, called "Cydonia", clarified this whole situation

To the ones who were so bothered by the chance of a fake rumor spreading, rest assured, his channel is fairly big (in Italy) and in this video, after explaining the procedure of the supposed glitch, he explains why it's fake.

He thanks you guys, referincing GlitchCity Labotariories for the technical support and the explanations that you've given to him.

He does not despise what Dio del Metal did, because he thought that creating fakemons nowdays would be impossible, and he has proven him wrong!
It was  fun experiencing something similar to the "Pokegods", even if for a little while (like Sherkel said)

He ends the video by saying that, while he may have uncovered the truth and explained why the whole thing was fake, he also "broke the magic" surrounding this mistery, and asks his viewers what they think about that.

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Personal take on the matter:

Having seen so many gen 1 and 2 glitches during the course of the years, and being subbed to various Pokemon glitch channels (ZZAZZ, Chickasaurus, Crystal, etc.) the thing immediately sounded strange to me, so understanding that the whole video wasn't real was quite easy...

However, I doubt that this "trick" had the potential to become famous, or to even spread at all outside from his niche community in the first place

Every user, even ones completly ignorant in Gen 1 glitching, can found out that this thing is fake by just looking at Bulbapedia's index number.
Gen 1 and 2 games have been torn apart to such an atomic level, that nowdays finding any kind of new secret looks just impossible. (That's also why the foucs is heavily shifting towards the betas)

So, I wouldn't take Dio del Metal's video so seriously. To me, it looked more like a fun demonstration of how fiction and reality can be mixed up, rather than everything else.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: ISSOtm on May 10, 2019, 10:13:17 am
While I agree with the point Cydonia made (and believe me, I wasn't expecting it at all), I still think there's a tort from presenting the video as not fake and being quite clickbait-y (there's a moment when a wall of text semi-aggressively prompts viewers to share the video).
There was some effort put into the fake, but not much.

About the "people could just have checked on bulbapedia" thing: how many "ignorant" people would have known to check there? How many people, ignorant or not, would have bothered to check in the first place? Heck, personally I didn't notice the index number was wrong when I watched the video, and Cydonia only ticked off because they had spent a good chunk of time with those numbers recently (that's what they state in their video)


Overall, I agree with Cydonia; it's a nice modern urban legend that I like when considered as such, and Dio Del Metal should really come forth about it--I don't believe there'd be backlash if he's honest--, and as for "breaking the magic",
(https://en.meming.world/images/en/thumb/4/4a/Modern_Problems_Require_Modern_Solutions.jpg/300px-Modern_Problems_Require_Modern_Solutions.jpg)
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on May 10, 2019, 02:03:19 pm
He finished it! Great! :D

Personally, I couldn't have imagined a better outcome when it came to this. Another, more famous Italian YouTuber who made videos about glitches was out there all along, and they put out a video explaining the truth of Leyxardon that instantly got 5 or so times as many views in a single day as the original video ever did. And where did they come asking questions first? Here. Seriously, it's surprisingly satisfying.

About the "people could just have checked on bulbapedia" thing: how many "ignorant" people would have known to check there? How many people, ignorant or not, would have bothered to check in the first place?
They wouldn't have, but I think this kind of misses the point. There's no way to communicate info to people who aren't willing to look into it themselves. If someone chooses to ignore what clashes with their perception of the facts here, then no amount of Bulbapedia, GCL, Pokémon Millennium, OR Dio del Metal will change their mind. In the end, this incident helped cement GCL as the place to go for those who want a thorough understanding of what's behind the oddities in these games (take that, luckytyphlosion! :P).
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Roberta on May 18, 2019, 06:04:08 am
Italian speaker here. I think that it would have been fairly obvious to assume from the beginning that the whole Leyxardon thing was a fake, that's because during the explanation a lot of emphasis is put into dragging the viewer into thinking that "I've never seen in my whole life a glitch like this", "try it if you don't believe it" (repeated multiple times until the end). Usually when a youtuber's main concern is keeping the suspense alive echoing his own disbelief just to be sure that nobody can call a fake on a playthrough, there's actually something fishy going around.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Sherkel on May 20, 2019, 03:54:58 pm
The more I saw of it, the more I started thinking it couldn't possibly have been meant to be taken seriously, but that didn't seem to be the case for everyone. I'm mostly glad that it gave Cydonia a chance to get the word out more about glitching and how it really works, even if just on a surface level.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Matt1990 on May 20, 2019, 10:03:36 pm
I assumed it as fake the moment I saw the sprite mainly because it looked too "well made" compared to other Pokéglitches. Plus, an "hardcore" gaming channel that talks about a glitch Pokémon (undiscovered in probably one of the most digged gens glitch-wise?) all of sudden? Seems fishy.
I'm Italian as well though. Also, the OG Youtuber made another vid where he contests what Cydonia says apparently????? (Judging by the thumbnail, I never followed Cydonia nor I came here because of him despite I did interact with him irl some years ago. However, I had, in around 2008, an Italian forum that talked about Pokémon glitches which was founded by someone else who apparently was quite inspired by this one)

I don't know though, if you want I can translate what Dio del Metal says in his latest vid "in his defense" about Lexayrdon.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Roberta on May 25, 2019, 10:11:03 pm
This is the transcript:

Io sono Leyxardon, e voi siete stati vittime e carnefici di qualcosa che va oltre la vostra statica comprensione. Non potete fare nulla contro la mia forza imminente. Così come un sole che non sorge e una luna che mai tramonta, io sono lo stendardo marcescente di ciò che oltrepassa il mero concetto e cosa sia vero e cosa non lo sia. Vi siete soffermati sulla sola veridicità di quanto avete visto con gli occhi. Come banale giustificazione della scelta del giustificare di cosa non riuscite a seminare, cogliere e mietere con lo spirito. La vera questione non è chiedersi e controbattere se io fossi reale o fittizio, ma del perché sono verità sotto la vostra pelle, del perché tutto ora vi spira attraverso, e del perché vi parassitizzi le vostre false speranze.

Basically he's saying (in a rather pompous fashion) that the whole Leyxardon thing is a wake-up call for those who are fooled by appearances and don't delve deep enough to distinguish right from wrong, real (or at least plausible) news against fake news and rumors.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Krys3000 on May 26, 2019, 01:42:01 am
In the video he also kinda acknowledge GCL and Cydonia for being the only one who actually reacted and analyzed his video.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Matt1990 on May 26, 2019, 05:21:07 pm
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Io sono Leyxardon, e voi siete stati vittime e carnefici di qualcosa che va oltre la vostra statica comprensione. Non potete fare nulla contro la mia forza imminente. Così come un sole che non sorge e una luna che mai tramonta, io sono lo stendardo marcescente di ciò che oltrepassa il mero concetto e cosa sia vero e cosa non lo sia. Vi siete soffermati sulla sola veridicità di quanto avete visto con gli occhi. Come banale giustificazione della scelta del giustificare di cosa non riuscite a seminare, cogliere e mietere con lo spirito. La vera questione non è chiedersi e controbattere se io fossi reale o fittizio, ma del perché sono verità sotto la vostra pelle, del perché tutto ora vi spira attraverso, e del perché vi parassitizzi le vostre false speranze.

"I'm Leyxardon, and you are victims and executions of something that goes beyond static comprehension. You can't do anything against my imminent strenght. Pretty much like a sun that doesn't rise and a moon that never sunsets, I'm the rotting banner of what surpasses mere concepts and what is true and what isn't. You stood still to the truth that you've seen with your own eyes. As trivial justification of choosing to justify what you can't sow, take and reap with spirit. The real question isn't whether I'm real or fake, but why I'm truth under your skin, why I'm blowing through and why it parasitizes (???) your false hopes."

Well, what can I say.... deep.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Evie the Mother Hen ☽ ❤ on May 31, 2019, 12:49:39 pm
Its not "real", but I feel him. Life is a dream. He may be feeling nothing is truly real at all; yet it still makes us live; so bless him. He is probably sad and something bad in him wants happiness. But I don't think its real in a grounded sense based on the works of the disassemblies before it.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Caveat on June 02, 2019, 08:30:04 am
Seems kinda like an instance of Schrodinger's Douchebag (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger%E2%80%99s%20douchebag) where he initially made it just to trick people, but then told us that it was a metaphor for fake news or whatever after people called out that it was fake.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Evie the Mother Hen ☽ ❤ on June 02, 2019, 11:44:18 am
Seems kinda like an instance of Schrodinger's Douchebag (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger%E2%80%99s%20douchebag) where he initially made it just to trick people, but then told us that it was a metaphor for fake news or whatever after people called out that it was fake.

Ah OK. Yes, 10/10 for their effort but I don't see any evidence for the existence like we've previously known; and in one sense everything can be a glitch Pokémon (https://glitchcity.info/wiki/Arbitrary_sprites).

Traditionally a glitch Pokémon has just been one type of data interpreted as another; but indexed (hence in RBYGSC there are 2^8 or 256 indexed values without a 'logic altering device' (by that I mean a Game Genie or ROM hack)). The sprite in this case may also be arbitrary sprites (or a ROM hack) I've never seen in the disassemblies, which makes me disbelief. So my head is telling me; this is all just magical thinking (that this is real) it's more like an illusion/paradelia; it does exist but it's not necessarily in the hard code.
Title: Re: New discovery from Dio del Metal (Italian Youtuber)
Post by: Photon-Phoenix on June 03, 2019, 04:40:27 am
Seems kinda like an instance of Schrodinger's Douchebag (https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=schrodinger%E2%80%99s%20douchebag) where he initially made it just to trick people, but then told us that it was a metaphor for fake news or whatever after people called out that it was fake.

Ah OK. Yes, 10/10 for their effort but I don't see any evidence for the existence like we've previously known; and in one sense everything can be a glitch Pokémon (https://glitchcity.info/wiki/Arbitrary_sprites).

Traditionally a glitch Pokémon has just been one type of data interpreted as another; but indexed (hence in RBYGSC there are 2^8 or 256 indexed values without a 'logic altering device' (by that I mean a Game Genie or ROM hack)). The sprite in this case may also be arbitrary sprites (or a ROM hack) I've never seen in the disassemblies, which makes me disbelief. So my head is telling me; this is all just magical thinking (that this is real) it's more like an illusion/paradelia; it does exist but it's not necessarily in the hard code.

It's a real hack and video if that counts, otherwise it doesn't exist period in the vanilla normal game.