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Title: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Sherkel on May 28, 2019, 03:27:00 pm
I think we should remove it. Thinking back to when it was instated in 2009, this was a very different place, with many more active members, a much more exclusivist attitude toward those that didn't seem to be as interested, and enough active threads that reaching 50 vaguely meaningful posts was nothing close to the hurdle it is now. In addition, the fact that someone could just go on that section and get to know other members and see that we're not "all business" makes it seem more ideal for newbies, not less. It might even be part of why so many stick to the Discord.

Not putting a poll, because there's no reason not to just state your opinion and whatever you want to add to a "yes" or "no".
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Yuzihax on May 28, 2019, 08:25:01 pm
I'll second this, for all of the reasons already listed above. Just seems like the time, really.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Parzival on May 28, 2019, 09:56:00 pm
inb4 we get spambotted worse than VXHeaven did
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Sherkel on May 29, 2019, 05:53:46 am
inb4 we get spambotted worse than VXHeaven did
Meaning what...? I was considering maybe keeping it hidden to guests, if it's something to do with that.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Parzival on May 29, 2019, 06:27:48 am
VXHeaven dropped a post count requirement for accounts (I think it was a mandatory thread in an intro board and like 5 replies, but it's been forever since they've even been up) and then every post became some spambot post about someone wanting you to go to some totally legit .onion link for malware for sale.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Yuzihax on May 29, 2019, 08:39:28 am
I honestly don't see how opening up a previously hidden board (one that is functionally no different than most others aside from the minimum post count requirement) is somehow inviting a spambot deluge, though. It's not like we don't already have spambots popping up every now and then either, they always have and likely always will, so even granting the idea of a minor uptick in the amount of them for some reason doesn't really change much in terms the day-to-day moderation of the forum or the overall user experience in my opinion.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Parzival on May 29, 2019, 01:31:30 pm
I honestly don't see how opening up a previously hidden board (one that is functionally no different than most others aside from the minimum post count requirement) is somehow inviting a spambot deluge, though. It's not like we don't already have spambots popping up every now and then either, they always have and likely always will, so even granting the idea of a minor uptick in the amount of them for some reason doesn't really change much in terms the day-to-day moderation of the forum or the overall user experience in my opinion.
they wanna remove the post count, not the visibility.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Yuzihax on May 29, 2019, 02:04:55 pm
well I sounded smart for a second at least lmao
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Parzival on May 29, 2019, 04:26:11 pm
well I sounded smart for a second at least lmao
Nah, you're good. It happens.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Sherkel on May 29, 2019, 04:51:40 pm
VXHeaven dropped a post count requirement for accounts (I think it was a mandatory thread in an intro board and like 5 replies, but it's been forever since they've even been up) and then every post became some spambot post about someone wanting you to go to some totally legit .onion link for malware for sale.
I don't see how those are causally related. If I'm being honest, postcount incentives of any sort encourage spam, not decrease it.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Bert on May 30, 2019, 01:00:43 am
We could go one step further and delete Forum Games as a whole. Nothing of value would be lost.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Parzival on May 30, 2019, 06:01:59 am
We could go one step further and delete Forum Games as a whole. Nothing of value would be lost.
no, but our shitposting hub would be lost.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Sherkel on May 30, 2019, 10:59:28 am
We could go one step further and delete Forum Games as a whole. Nothing of value would be lost.
I object, as Meganium Adventures is in a sub-board.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Bert on May 30, 2019, 04:56:24 pm
We could go one step further and delete Forum Games as a whole. Nothing of value would be lost.
no, but our shitposting hub would be lost.

Member's Guide to Topiclessness is in General Discussion, though.

We could go one step further and delete Forum Games as a whole. Nothing of value would be lost.
I object, as Meganium Adventures is in a sub-board.

We could move it to Art.

I hardly ever use the board but for the sake of being on-topic, I don't see what harm removing the post count would do.
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Parzival on May 30, 2019, 05:01:35 pm
We could go one step further and delete Forum Games as a whole. Nothing of value would be lost.
I object, as Meganium Adventures is in a sub-board.
god i love this as it's a testament to... thread quality? I guess?

i lack words to describe it any better
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Missing? NO! on June 01, 2019, 11:22:25 pm
I'm also in favor for removing the 50 post requirement, for much of the reasons that Sherkel stated already.

Back in the mid-late 2000s, this forum was a vastly different place, especially during summers. New posts and topics would go up every few minutes. Large amounts of users and guests would not only be online all at once, but would be actively participating in conversation across multiple boards. Put simply, our forum was much much more active when the post requirement was created.

Now, it's not like this forum is in an unhealthy place right now. Plenty of active discussion still happens, and the quality of said discussion is arguably higher than it was back in the 2000s. However, most discussion now is focused in one or two topics at a particular time. Gone are the days of many users posting across a wide variety of topics -- nowadays, there's one or two topics that are "focuses" for the week that draw the majority of attention. It's not a bad problem to have; it's just different than it was in years past.

As a result of this "culture shift" (as I'm calling it), the quality of posts that users make on a per-user basis has gone up. But the quantity of posts that users make on a per-user basis has gone down. I don't really see a need to institute a 50 post requirement for Forum Games anymore, considering that, now, 50 posts is a significant amount of posts. Back then, 50 posts wasn't really that many.

I could go on about this topic, but I won't. It's a pretty simple issue and I won't elaborate further because I don't think that's necessary. There are risks, yeah, like having a flood of users coming in that only want to use the Forum Games section, but given that we're not a super well-known forum (as opposed to somewhere like Serebii or Smogon), I don't really think that's an issue.

So, yeah. Take it away!
Title: Re: The 50 post requirement for Forum Games
Post by: Sherkel on June 02, 2019, 12:14:41 am
However many opinions I was waiting for, they've come in by now, so...done!

Users now need 1 post to access those boards. Spam posts to reach that requirement will...uh...you know how it is.

I could have made it 0, but changing the permissions on the normal GCLF Member group seemed sensible enough.