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Pokémon Crystal unused character?
« on: March 22, 2017, 04:57:11 pm »
In Pokémon Crystal there is a character which I don't remember being used on any NPC, which I found listed on a list of character indices on the Pokémon Crystal disassembly (https://github.com/pret/pokecrystal/blob/master/constants/sprite_constants.asm).

This character can be viewed on BGB (v1.5.2) with the code 013F54D1 but the code working may be due to a presumable emulation error (as I tried the code on an Xploder GB with Pokémon Crystal on a real Game Boy Advance SP and it didn't work).

These are his sprites with the male character's palette.



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Re: Pokémon Crystal unused character?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2017, 11:47:59 am »
This sprite also exists in Gold and Silver. JohtoMap has a feature where it shows the sprites of characters and 3F is apparently supposed to look red.

Could you update the TCRF article's section with that spriteset? You could merge the 4 sprites into a single image, too.

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Re: Pokémon Crystal unused character?
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 02:53:49 pm »
This sprite also exists in Gold and Silver. JohtoMap has a feature where it shows the sprites of characters and 3F is apparently supposed to look red.

Could you update the TCRF article's section with that spriteset? You could merge the 4 sprites into a single image, too.

Thanks for this! So by using the Game Genie code 3F4-52A-08A in English Gold you can replace the left-most Pokémon Center nurse with this NPC sprite. :)

I'm just a little confused, do you want me to add the red sprites to the article (as you wrote the sprite is supposed to look red) or a version of the sprites with no palette assigned? The confusion was from the TCRF article stating there is no palette for the NPC.

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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2017, 03:09:57 pm »
Thanks for this! So by using the Game Genie code 3F4-52A-08A in English Gold you can replace the left-most Pokémon Center nurse with this NPC sprite. :)

And thank you for looking that up!  :D

I'm just a little confused, do you want me to add the red sprites to the article (as you wrote the sprite is supposed to look red) or a version of the sprites with no palette assigned? The confusion was from the TCRF article stating there is no palette for the NPC.

Oh. My apologies, I added that before looking at the ROM on JohtoMap. I'm talking about the red sprites, yes. That supposition about the palette can be safely removed now.

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« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2017, 05:27:14 pm »
You're welcome! ^^

OK, I'll go ahead and add the new information/red sprites.

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« Reply #5 on: March 23, 2017, 06:04:48 pm »
Seems like the Japanese versions have an unused header for a removed location, which was called 「オバケやしき」  Haunted House. The English versions erased this reference by replacing the header's string with "N/A".

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« Reply #6 on: March 23, 2017, 06:23:51 pm »
Seems like the Japanese versions have an unused header for a removed location, which was called 「オバケやしき」  Haunted House. The English versions erased this reference by replacing the header's string with "N/A".

Yeah, I noticed your comment and it made me really curious whether it inspired the Old Chateau in Generation IV. I've updated the TCRF page with that theory.

It would be really cool if Gold/Silver had a haunted house to explore.  :)

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« Reply #7 on: March 23, 2017, 06:29:45 pm »
It would be really cool if Gold/Silver had a haunted house to explore.  :)

Indeed. Silktree suggests that the Haunted House would've been found in Olivine City and that its inspiration was possibly the Himeji Castle.
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« Reply #8 on: March 23, 2017, 06:36:30 pm »
It would be really cool if Gold/Silver had a haunted house to explore.  :)

Indeed. Silktree suggests that the Haunted House would've been found in Olivine City and that its inspiration was possibly the Himeji Castle.

Cool! Was that discussion publicly online? May you link to Silktree's theory please?
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« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2017, 06:43:15 pm »
Cool! Was that discussion publicly online? May you link to Silktree's theory please?

Yes, he said that in the Bulbagarden Forums thread I linked to above. Here's the direct link to his post  :)

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« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2017, 06:48:03 pm »
Cool! Was that discussion publicly online? May you link to Silktree's theory please?

Yes, he said that in the Bulbagarden Forums thread I linked to above. Here's the direct link to his post  :)

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